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Laser 128 computer

The Laser 128 computer was an Apple II-compatible home computer manufactured by Video Technologies Ltd in Hong Kong and sold in the 1980s. It was available via mail order and in some retail stores like Sears. In spite of the name, there wasn’t anything optical about it. The name “laser” just sounded like high technology in the 1980s.

Other Apple II clones usually violated Apple’s copyrights, but the Laser 128 did not. It blended some of the features of both the Apple IIe and IIc computers.


early laser 128 computer

Critics said the first models of Laser 128, from 1986, had a boring and homely design compared to Apple. A later revision dressed up the case a bit.

Like its name suggests, the Laser 128 shipped with 128 KB of RAM like the Apple IIc. Its form factor resembled the IIc, including the handle and single-piece design with the disk drive on the right side and the drive, keyboard, and CPU all integrated into a single unit. Its ports on the back mimicked the IIc. It was just a bit wider and thicker, due to the presence of a numeric keypad and expansion slot. The power supply uses the same pinout as the IIc.

Under the hood, the Laser 128 more closely resembled a IIe than a IIc, but the end result was highly compatible with both machines.

There were more than 160 different Apple II clones produced throughout the world during the Apple II’s heyday. Most were produced in other countries where Apple had little or no legal recourse to stop them. The Laser 128 was one of very few that challenged Apple on its home turf and held up to Apple’s legal challenges.

Laser 128 date of release and price

Laser 128 computer

The Laser 128 looked like a slightly overgrown and homelier Apple IIc, though from a programming standpoint, it was closer to a IIe.

Some computer identification and reference books state the Laser 128 came out in 1984. I think this is incorrect. I can’t find mention of it in any magazine prior to early 1986, and Mike Brown, the president of its US distributor, said they chose the name to sound like the Commodore 128. The Commodore 128 came out in 1985. At the very least, the Laser 128 came out in 1986 in the United States, because that’s when Vtech got the right to import it.

Initially the Laser 128 retailed for $479, but it frequently sold for less. Central Point Software sold it for $399 by mail order, as did Computer Direct, a Chicago-based mail order house from the 1980s. Sears featured it in its 1988 Christmas catalog priced at $399. The Commodore 128 on the page before sold for $499.

The Laser 128 computer’s appeal was Apple compatibility at a Commodore price. To that end, its distributors even advertised it in magazines for Commodore owners. It seems to have worked. The Laser 128 is hardly common today, but it sold well enough that software publishers started testing their software on it to make sure it worked. It’s unclear how many Commodore owners they converted, but if nothing else, they put an end the the $299 Spartan accessory that made the C-64 compatible with an Apple II+.

There were two additional models released later, 1987’s Laser 128EX and 1988’s Laser 128EX/2. These featured faster 3.6 MHz CPUs, more video memory, and, in the case of the EX/2, a 3.5-inch disk drive and MIDI port.

Laser 128 compatibility

Laser 128 computer

Computer Direct, a large mail order house, sold the Laser 128 as two bundles at heavy discounts. This ad appeared not just in Apple magazines, but Commodore magazines as well.

Early reviews in 1986 found the Laser 128 ran most of the major Apple II titles. Compatibility ranged from 85 to 95 percent, and some titles would load and run but the graphics were glitchy. Some publications counted the program glitchiness as a success, some as a failure. But the competing Franklin Ace 2000 series, which was also Apple compatible, only worked with about 50% of the titles on the market.

Franklin had copied the Apple ROMs and operating system, which resulted in a famous lawsuit from Apple, which Franklin lost. The Ace 2000 was a clean-room design, and sported poor compatibility as a result. Vtech licensed the same Basic ROM from Microsoft that Apple did. Reserving the right to do that was Microsoft’s custom, so there was nothing underhanded there. Vtech then performed a Compaq-style clean room implementation of the rest of the system ROM, and shipped the computer without an operating system. This allowed Vtech to beat Franklin compatibility-wise and prevented Apple from keeping the machine from the market. Many Apple programs relied on the Basic ROM, so having the routines all at the same addresses ensured they could run.

The Laser 128 wasn’t 100% compatible, but the various Apple models weren’t quite 100% compatible with each other either.

Hardware compatibility

Hardware-wise, the Laser 128 was mostly compatible with IIe and IIc accessories. Not all IIe expansion cards worked in its expansion slot, since the IIe’s slots weren’t completely interchangeable. But cards that didn’t care what slot they were plugged into worked fine. Apple’s 3.5-inch disk drive wouldn’t work on the Laser 128’s built-in disk drive port, but it would work with a controller plugged into its expansion slot or separately-sold expansion chassis.

Critical reception

It’s clear from looking at an Apple IIc that the Laser 128 was supposed to resemble it, but the IIc had a more refined, elegant appearance overall.

The Laser 128 generally received good reviews. The Apple magazines generally criticized its styling, calling its appearance utilitarian and homely. A later revision dressed it up a bit, adding angled vents and a place to hold a pen above the keyboard, but it still didn’t match Apple’s industrial design. Reviewers liked its numeric keypad and function keys, but didn’t necessarily take to the feel of its keyboard. At least some examples of the IIc had a nice Alps keyboard with a good tactile feel that the cheaper Laser 128 keyboard couldn’t match.

Critics didn’t like the external expansion slot, since it left the circuit board exposed and invited accidents. The FCC didn’t like it either, and that led to the optional $89 expansion chassis. The expansion chassis provided two slots and enclosing the cards. But the expansion chassis was bulky, boxy, and unweildy. It worked, but it left a big rectangular box hanging off the left-hand side of the machine.

While it didn’t look or feel quite as nice as an Apple IIe or IIc, none of the magazines of the time questioned its value. It cost half as much and worked with all of the major titles people bought Apples to run.

Apple took the Laser 128 seriously, responding with the Enhanced IIe and the IIc+. The Enhanced IIe added a numeric keypad, while the IIc+ added a 3.5-inch disk drive and faster processor.


The Laser 128 was highly compatible, but didn’t quite match Apple’s reliability. Commodore was able to sell machines for half the price of Apple because they manufactured so many of their chips themselves. Vtech was buying chips from the same suppliers Apple did, so they didn’t have Commodore’s margins. To keep costs down, Vtech had to skimp on the quality of other components.

There’s no question the Laser 128 was always less common than the Apple IIc, but a larger percentage of Apple IIc computers survived as well.

How the Laser 128 was sold

Central Point Software sold the Laser 128 direct, priced about $80 below retail. However, there were other dealers who also sold it, and if you find a Laser 128 for sale, the other peripherals with it can give you some idea of where it might have been purchased.

Sears sold the Laser 128 in its catalogs alongside its own dot matrix printer and a couple of different models of Magnavox monitors. If you see a Laser 128 with either a Sears printer or a Magnavox monitor, that’s an indicator the unit may have come from Sears.

Computer Direct sold the Laser 128 in various bundles over the years, sometimes with a 9-inch or 12-inch monochrome monitor, and with a printer. If you see a Laser 128 with a small thermal printer with a badge on it that says “Big Blue,” that’s almost certainly a Computer Direct bundle.  Computer Direct also sometimes bundled it with other printers, such as a dot matrix printer it badged simply as “NLQ 180.”

As collectors, we frequently know little or nothing about the history or provenance of the machines we acquire. The peripherals we find with the Laser 128 can give us more clues than most of our finds do.

Rarity and value today

A Laser 128 computer isn’t super rare, but doesn’t turn up every day either. In 2020 at least, it seems one comes available about every 1-2 weeks on Ebay. Selling price varies depending on condition, whether it works, and what it’s bundled with, but the bare computer in working condition is worth around $100. Bundled with the expansion chassis or the matching external disk drive, it can sell for $150.

The EX and EX/2 models are harder to come by. The only time I saw one of those sell, it sold for $200.

By comparison, at the time I wrote this, there were no fewer than 10 Apple IIc computers available for sale, though the asking prices weren’t all very realistic. With a little patience, you can get a IIc for about what you’d pay for a Laser 128. But you’ll get fewer chances at a Laser 128 if you want one of those.

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4 thoughts on “Laser 128 computer”

  1. My parents owned a computer software store from the fall of ’85 through the summer of ’86. It wasn’t until the very end that they extended their inventory and added hardware. My dad likes to say that the only month the store made a profit was the month they sold a Laser 128, and that would have been right before the store closed in ’86. We had a few boxed Apple II mice out in my dad’s storage shed as recently as a few years ago, although rain and mice got to most of what little was left (I got the boxed software years ago). At home, our family actually owned a Franklin Ace 1000 (along with other computers).

  2. So I have a Laser 128 computer, in it’s original box, actually has some of the original literature that came in the package including a beautiful color brochure extolling the product.. I want to sell it but not sure where I can get the most for it. Do you have any suggestions?

    1. Selling an old computer always involves tradeoffs. You’ll get the most off Ebay, but the amount you’ll get really depends on the amount of effort you put into it. Take lots of photos, including one of the computer working, and the nicer it looks, the more attention (and bids) it will attract. But then you also have to find a box, pack it well, and hope it doesn’t get damaged in transit (buy insurance!). The more of the shipping cost you pass onto the buyer, the lower the bids will be. And you will need to put an outer box around the original box. If you just slap a label on the original box, you’ll have an angry buyer.

      Selling via something like Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace saves you the cost and hassle of shipping and the 15 percent sales commission, if you’re OK with having visitors to come see it. The upside there is when the sale is done, whoever buys it will help break it down, box it up, and take it to their vehicle. And you don’t have the risk of auctions.

      You’ll need to double check the amounts, but let’s say Laser 128s sell for between $150 and $350 on Ebay. Some people will see that, and ask $300 or even $350 on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace. It may eventually sell, but expect a flood of people offering you $100. The typical selling price appears to be closer to $200. You’ll have to decide how much work you want to put into it, and weigh the risk vs reward. If it were me, I’d take lots of nice photos, and list it locally for $200 and be ready to accept $175. Then, if you can’t find any takers after a few weeks, you can try listing it on Ebay.

  3. I had one of these when I was 9 or 10. First computer. 🙂 I didn’t do much with it but play crappy games. I think I would have liked a C64 more. After this I had an Amiga 500, and then my first PC, a 486/DX 33. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

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