Comments on: The road to financial independence https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-road-to-financial-independence David L. Farquhar on technology old and new, computer security, and more Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:22:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-5511 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:22:57 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-5511 In reply to Anonymous.

This seems to be one of those things where the most important thing is to find a plan you can stick to, then stick to it. Having a plan–any plan–is better than none at all, and the best plan in the world isn’t going to help if you can’t bring yourself to stick to it.

At least that’s the conclusion I came to after Steve and I discussed (at length) the different tactics we’ve heard about.

Some people may opt to max out their 401(k) and Roth contributions before they pay off any debt at all. That’s not the strategy I took. But the person who does that certainly is way ahead of the person who saves nothing and makes the minimum payment on everything each month.

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-5506 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:33:47 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-5506 In reply to Anonymous.

pay down the high interest rate debt first. Ihat will save the most money

I’ve found that the different strategies for debt elimination often conflict. A lot of it depends on your individual situation, particularly how your debts are distributed among your creditors. Paying off the highest interest debt first is certainly best when your debts are distributed fairly evenly. But if you’ve got $5K of credit debt and a $100K mortgage, odds are that – unless you have a very low mortgage interest rate and a very high credit interest rate – you’re going to save more in the long run by attacking the mortgage first, because the debt and aggregate interest loads are higher.

Your own personality is part of the strategy you settle upon, too. If paying off your smaller debts more quickly keeps you motivated, it’s probably best to do that rather than plod along on a long-term payoff and get off track.

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-995 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:43:23 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-995 Nice tip on the oatmeal, Bruce. I’ll have to do that. I may go for the store brand though–I’ve bought it before and don’t mind it all that much.

As for the cars, I’m with you. My Honda was a year-old used vehicle. If I had it to do again, I’d have bought one that was a few years older. I bought that car for some of the wrong reasons but I still made fewer mistakes with it than I could have.

There’s a good mechanic a couple of miles from me who specializes in Hondas, and I’ve learned how to tune my driving habits so I can pretty consistently get 38 MPG out of my Civic. Now that gas has hit $2.50 a gallon, I’m about ready to experiment with high-efficiency spark plugs in hopes of squeezing out a little more.

I intend to put 200,000 miles on this car. That gives me lots of time to wait for what’s next. It’ll most likely be another Honda or a Toyota, mostly for fuel efficiency reasons.

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-3318 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:29:57 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-3318 Exactly. We don’t carry any credit card debt–I don’t know that I’ve paid interest more than about once on a credit card since I first got one at 19–so the cars were pretty much it. The rates on the cars and on the mortgage were pretty close, but since the interest on the mortgage is tax deductible, we went for the cars. Plus, now that’s two fewer bills to remember to pay every month.

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-996 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:27:05 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-996 I see one problem with this lifestyle. Most companies are moving toward pre-employment credit checks. How will you explain to the people in HR your views on their indebtedness?

"The only reason a great many American families don’t own an elephant is that they have never been offered an elephant for a dollar down and easy weekly payments." ~Mad Magazine

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-3320 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:13:18 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-3320 Dave,
You said”Pay down your debt. Once Em and I got on our feet financially and it was clear we wouldn’t have to live off our savings anymore, we paid off our cars. We’d been making extra payments anyway. By paying off her 5-year loan in 3 years and mine in 2, we probably saved $3,000 in interest charges. That 3 grand is going to come in handy.”

I agree with this thought. BUT, pay down the high interest rate debt first. Ihat will save the most money (which will be applied to the less expencive debt.

I don’t think that you have a sin with your mortgage payment. I do not believe that Christ taught that we should not provide for our dependents.

Give me a mail sometime,
John Vogt

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-3319 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:29:04 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-3319 In reply to Anonymous.

One more thing: Find an honest trusted mechanic to work on your vehicle. Saves a lot of money and if you have a used import it is way cheaper than the dealer!

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By: Anonymous https://dfarq.homeip.net/the-road-to-financial-independence/#comment-997 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:22:53 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=1487#comment-997 Hi Dave,

Good post with many excellent posts. I’m glad things are looking up for you and your wife, that is great!

A small observation that will allow you to save even more money (I know because I do it): I also eat oatmeal at work almost every morning and several years ago discovered that the packets of oatmeal are much more expensive, less tasty and filled with many additives compared to plain old fashioned Quaker Oats. Old Fashioned Quaker Oats (not one minute or instant or a store brand where the old fashioned oats are more like sweepings left over from Quaker) cook just fine when placed in a mug with boiling hot water poured over them, stir and let set for a couple minutes. Or, what I do now is microwave the oats for a couple minutes on high in a bowl, they come out fluffy yet with a good texture, fully cooked and ready to eat. Stir in some raisins, cinnamon, walnuts, etc for extra flavor. All told, healthy, more tasty and cheaper than packets of instant oatmeal. (I use a ratio of one part oats to two parts water. Also be careful when microwaving so they don’t boil over and out of your bowl).

On cars, I have never bought a new car but patiently wait for the right vehicle to come along. I currently drive a Mercedes 1989 300e in excellent condition that I bought in 2001… you’d be surprised how cheap these are once they get to around 10 years old ( got mine for a little over $6,000, the key is to wait for one that is well maintained, at a good price, and then be one of the types that rather spend anywhere from $500 to $2000 a year on quality maintenance instead of a lot more on a much more expensive new car. If you (and I don’t think you are but some people reading this will be) are the type that worries about the car being bad because ii needs new breaks, a new water pump, a new oil pump, needs to have the timing belt or chain replace, etc. then a new car may be the way to go, but for saving money find a good quality older vehicle and maintain it. My previous car, a 1977 Mercedes 240D I have had since 1991 (it’s currently the emergency back-up vehicle) and it still runs great and has nearly 300,000 miles on it! 🙂

That’s my two cents.

– Bruce

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