Comments on: How thousands of Atari cartridges ended up in the desert https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert David L. Farquhar on technology old and new, computer security, and more Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:21:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dave Farquhar https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert/#comment-37292 Tue, 20 May 2014 01:50:19 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=7154#comment-37292 In reply to Marty Goldberg.

I did not edit the text, had no reason to do so, and I resent the accusation. When I edit something, I go back and make note of it. That’s called integrity.

And yes, that’s a perfectly apt comparison. Saab the airplane company kept making airplanes while GM made Saab cars. Atari Games continued making arcade games while Tramiel’s Atari, whatever it was called that week, made computers and, later, consoles. Arrangements like this happen a lot–Lionel got out of the train business and decided to become a chain of toy stores while General Mills made Lionel trains under the same brand name. Rolls-Royce the jet engine company makes jet engines while Volkswagen makes luxury cars under the same brand name. Which is the real company? It depends entirely on what industry you’re in.

If you want to nitpick about what business Warner was in… Records were a big part of their business, by your own admission.

Please go find somewhere else to nitpick.

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By: Marty Goldberg https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert/#comment-37283 Mon, 19 May 2014 23:29:47 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=7154#comment-37283 However it’s not semantics and that’s not an apt comparison. The Atari brand was shared, and the original part of the company, the coin part (Atari was originally a coin company first and foremost for the better part of a decade) continued on. Your comparison would be apt if the airplane part was bought and the original car part had carried on.

Likewise just noticed another incorrect fact: Atari was not owned by “Warner Bros. a record company.” It was owned by Warner Communications. Warner Bros. Records was a division of Warner Communications, just as Warner Bros. Television, Warner Bros. Film, the Franklin Mint, DC Comics, and Atari were all divisions.

And yes you did say that about the ET carts, it appears the text has been edited now.

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By: Dave Farquhar https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert/#comment-37282 Mon, 19 May 2014 22:53:54 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=7154#comment-37282 In reply to Marty Goldberg.

Numbers: I know I’d read several places that they produced more cartridges than consoles, but it’s entirely possible we have better information now. We’re still learning stuff that happened at Lionel in the 1930s.

E.T.: I never said all of the cartridges buried were E.T.–I said it was excess inventory. We’re saying the same thing, I just didn’t say it the way you wanted me to say it.

Tramiel: The relevant part of the business to this entry, and the part that most people think of when they hear “Atari,” is exactly what Tramiel bought. We can argue semantics, but it’s like when GM bought Saab. They didn’t buy all of Saab–Saab also made airplanes–but they bought what people think of, so people say, “GM bought Saab.”

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By: Marty Goldberg https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-thousands-of-atari-cartridges-ended-up-in-the-desert/#comment-37276 Mon, 19 May 2014 18:48:27 +0000 https://dfarq.homeip.net/?p=7154#comment-37276 David, that’s a myth that they produced more ETs then there were consoles. There were only five million ETs produced and there were between 10-12 million 2600s in homes by the end of ’82. Additionally, Warner did not sell Atari Inc. to Tramiel, they sold the assets of the Consumer Division to Jack, which he folded into his company TTL which in turn was renamed to Atari Corporation.

Likewise you’re mistaken, they story of millions of ETs being buried there has been proven as false. The idea of there being a dumping of Atari product dumping there was never in question as it was well covered in the media at the time. What the dig did was verify what was stated at the time as being there: a plethora of game titles, hardware and parts. 21+ 2600 and 5200 game titles were found there, some of which were ET. Additionally, the person originally in charge of the dumping was on hand and has since stated exactly what was dumped cartridge wise: about 728,000 cartridges of various titles.

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