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    Upgrade diary: Compaq Presario 7360   
    Thursday, January 01 2004 @ 02:47 PM CST
    By David L. Farquhar

    Last week, I talked about my plans to upgrade a Presario 7360. I can now present you with the executive summary.

    This isn't a project for the faint of heart or the inexperienced. Upgrading is certainly possible, but this is one of the most difficult upgrade projects I've ever done, and this is coming from a guy who's done a lot of upgrades. I can honestly say that for every soda I've drunk over the past seven years, I've probably serviced one computer.

    With today being New Year's Day and me having the day off (mostly), I decided to tackle the project. If you're stuck with doing major upgrades to a 7360, make sure you've got a long block of time where you won't be interrupted.

    Caveat 1: The first question is how to get the old motherboard out in order to do anything. You'll have to, unless your hands are about half the size of mine (and my hands are smaller than average). Remove the two screws from the underside of the motherboard, then find a couple of convenient spots to grab onto, and pull the assembly toward the front of the case. The board will then fold out, like a door.

    Caveat 2: The factory power supply is woefully underpowered. It might very well fail if all you add to the system is a CD-RW drive. And there's no way it'll work with a modern Athlon or P4 motherboard. Fortunately, 200-watt SFX power supplies, while not necessarily something every streetcorner computer store carries, are much more common today than they were even two years ago. Newegg.com carries a suitable replacement for around $25. Look for an Allied AL-B200SFX. Not only is it 200 watts, it's also certified for P4 and Athlon use.

    Caveat 3: If you haven't yet gotten the idea that this case is crowded, the position of the drive bays makes it difficult for a modern Socket 478/Socket A CPU fan to fit without moving the hard drive. After replacing the motherboard, I had to bust out the hard drive, open up the slot intended for a Zip drive, and slide the drive in from the front in order for it to fit, then bolt the drive into place and replace that slot's front cover.

    Caveat 4: The front panel. Like many brand-name PCs, this Presario puts the front power button and all the LED leads in one easy-to-plug-in block. Unfortunately, there's no industry standard pinout for that front panel. I happen to have two Compaq Socket A motherboards purchased from various closeout joints. Those two boards, and the Socket 7 board that originally came in this Presario, all have different pinouts. You'll have to rewire that block, and it'll involve some trial and error. Assume this part of the job will take an hour or two.

    Caveat 5: Airflow. Add a second optical drive or hard drive or both to this thing, and there's not going to be much room for airflow. Don't upgrade with a high-end CPU.

    Caveat 6: Clearance. The first HSF combo I tried was 2 inches tall. It didn't fit, and there was no way to make it fit, unless I permanently removed the drive cage that holds the floppy and hard drives. I replaced it with a Speeze 5C12B3, which fit. The first memory stick I tried was 1.375 inches tall. It didn't fit either--I had to locate a shorter one.

    Overall recommendation: If you can upgrade this thing, you have my respect. I got one working, but mainly because I had a larger-than-usual selection of parts on hand. If this had been my first attempt at doing a motherboard swap, I would have sworn off the practice forever.

    Chances are, if you're reading this, you're much better off buying an inexpensive replacement computer and relegating your 7360 to Web browing/e-mail duty, or donating it to a charitable organization that gives computers to the needy if your community has one (St. Louis does--Web Innovations and Technology Services, at 4660 West Florissant Avenue). Unless you tear into computers for a living, I wouldn't recommend attempting a motherboard swap in this computer.

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    Mark
    Authored by: ImportedComment on Friday, January 02 2004 @ 08:35 PM CST
    That was a great analysis.

    What if I have $2,500 to throw at anything?

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    Dustin D. Cook
    Authored by: ImportedComment on Saturday, January 03 2004 @ 12:03 AM CST
    Hmm... $2,500 to throw at anything?

    I'd throw it at the ACLU if you live in the USA. The Free Software Foundation and Electronic Frontiers Foundation are both worthy causes, too. ;)

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    keith
    Authored by: ImportedComment on Saturday, January 03 2004 @ 11:02 AM CST
    Mark, if you want to spend that much, maybe you should buy a new dual-G5 Mac? Or just the 20-something inch Apple LCD monitor? ;^D

    Seriously, I just built a great barebones system (case, power supply, motherboard, CPU, RAM; no operating system, no hard drive, CD/DVD, video, or net cards) for under $800 assembled from monarchcomputer.com, and a co-worker came in about $100 cheaper buying similar components at newegg.com to assemble it himself.

    Hard disk drives are disgustingly cheap after rebates these days (about 50 cents per gigabyte) and so is DDR RAM memory (250 bucks for a gigabyte of fast PC3200 400 MHz DDR RAM). Network cards are dirt cheap (unless you get a motherboard with networking already built-in) and you can find decent prices on video cards, too.

    For $2500, you can probably build out TWO nice systems, if you recycle some of your current components (hard drive, cd-rom, video card, network card) or one nice system with a 19" LCD monitor (Sam's Club has the Sceptre X9S Naga 19" LCD for about $460, if you can find one remaining.)

    Or, as the more frugal would suggest, only spend about $800 of that $2500, and keep the other $1700 in the bank account. (wink, wink; nudge, nudge)

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    Upgrade diary: Compaq Presario 7360
    Authored by: lightcaster on Monday, March 01 2004 @ 01:40 PM CST
    I really enjoyed reading about your experience with the 7360. I also have a 7360 that I bought at a rent to own place. Which came with no supporting software or drivers. Since I've owned it I've upgraded it with a new 3D card, a larger 80gb hard drive, and a rw cd rom. Having two hard drives in the computer, I also had to move the fan and place the old hard drive into the zip drive bracket. My next task is to replace the motherboard with a p4 processor. I am so glad I read your forum about the wattage. Also that I will be challanged with it fitting, and having to rewire the block. I tell myself, I should get a newer computer with a much larger capacity room for upgrades, but I have done so much with this system already, I would hate to stop now. I even got HP to send me the recovery disk for this thing. I know I'm stubborn, but this computer system is definetly a challange to tackle on...

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    Upgrade diary: Compaq Presario 7360
    Authored by: veefer800canuck on Saturday, November 27 2004 @ 01:28 PM CST
    [quote]Caveat 4: The front panel. Like many brand-name PCs, this Presario puts the front power button and all the LED leads in one easy-to-plug-in block. Unfortunately, there's no industry standard pinout for that front panel. I happen to have two Compaq Socket A motherboards purchased from various closeout joints. Those two boards, and the Socket 7 board that originally came in this Presario, all have different pinouts. You'll have to rewire that block, and it'll involve some trial and error. Assume this part of the job will take an hour or two.[/quote]

    Dave, do you have any detailed information about this step of the modification? Pinout diagram perhaps?

    I am planning on modding my old Compaq 7469 which is a very similar model to the 7360 and was hoping you could shed some light on the front power switch/LED connection issue.

    Here is the parts list for the upgrade:

    -Chaintech 7NJL6 Socket A Motherboard and AMD Sempron 2500+ Processor

    -Ultra 512MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory

    -Powmax / LP6100C / 300-Watt / ATX / Dual 80mm Fan / Power Supply

    -XFX GeForce FX 5200 / 128MB DDR / AGP 8X / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

    Total cost after rebates, etc: $295.00

    I may add a new HDD later on if the OEM HDD is too slow. It is a Seagate 13 GB, 5400 RPM, ATA-66 unit.

    May upgrade to a 40 GB ATA-133 for around 67 bucks or so. We'll see.

    TIA!

    Rob

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